Saurashtra: A Language, Region, Culture & Community

Saurashtra: A Language, Region, Culture & Community.
Dr. Vrajlal K. Sapovadia
Director, SBS Jaipur

Prologue:
Saurashtra is primarily known as a region in western part of India and people in the region speaks Gujarati language. Saurashtra is a language in South India spoken by Suarshtrian community. Suarshtrian community might have migrated Saurshtra region of Gujarat many centuries ago, but have similarities in culture till date. Saurashtra in context to language and community is written with some variations like Souarshtra, Sourashtram, Soaurashrians etc. Suarshtra in context to region is also known as Kathiawar and Sorath. This paper is substantially a compilation of detail of the region, language and community captured from online open sources on Wikipedia & various blogs to describe culture, relation, commonality, linkages and contrast between western India’s Saurashtra region and south India’s Sourashtrian community & language.
Region:
“Saurashtra” is a geographical region situated in Gujarat’s semicircular area located North West of Arabian Sea. Politically “Saurashtra” is comprised of 7 districts namely, Porbandar, Junagadh, Amreli, Bhavnagar, Jamnagar, Rajkot & Surendranagar. Referred to as Surashtra also have some other names as well over a period of time, since the Mahabharata and Vedic period, this region is mentioned again as Surastrene, or Saraostus in the 1st century CE Periplus of the Erythraean Sea. Saurashtra is a location of midwestern India, located on the Peninsula Sea Gujrat Mapshore of Gujarat verbalise. The peninsula is also called Kathiawar. The Peninsula is common with the Kachchh realm which occupies the northward, Saurashtra or Sorath forming the southern parceling; on eastern part, the Cambay gulf.

Language:
Saurashtra carrying alternate names and spellings like Saurashtram, Sourashtra, Sowrashtra, pattunulkaarar, Palkar, Saurashtri etc. and also the name of an Indo-Aryan language of Kathiawar-Saurashtra. Though Saurashtra Language is not spoken in the Saurashtra region now, people of this region who migrated to Southern India many centuries ago and who is especially settled in towns like Madurai, Paramakudi, Salem, Tanjore of Tamil Nadu and part of Andhra Pradesh still preserve and speak the language “Saurashtra”. The script of this language is derived from the Devanagari Script and shares similarities with modern day Gujarati. However, after migration of this community in 11th century, Gujarati is influenced by Arabic, Urdu, Portuguese, English and Parsian differs in many respect with Surashtra language. On the other hand, the community who travelled from Suarshtra to South India through Surat, Marathwada, Ratnagairi, Karnataka, and Andhra Pradesh during several centuries took colour from languages & cultures of all the regions they crossed.
Culture:
The people of Saurashtra are adventurous, brave, adept in trade and commerce, and therefore they have established many commercial colonies in foreign countries, from ancient times. The Saurashtrians had settled in Africa, Mauratius, Ceylon (Shrilanka), Burma (Myanmar), Indonesia (Java), Sumatra, Indo China, Cambodia, Malayasia and Philipines and Fiji. The Saurashtrians are also spread over various parts of the Indian homeland, taking prominent part in the commercial field, which is more suitable to their nature. It is quite natural that the origin of many words of trade, commerce, business and measurements found in various Indian languages can be traced to Gujarati language.
The reference of Saurashtra found in the Mahabharat, ‘Arthashastra’ of Chanakya, Deval Smriti and Buddha stories written during the 1st century A.D. Clear references to Saurashtra in the stone inscriptions at Girnar, of Maha Kshatrap Rudradama of 15O A.D, of the remains and reminiscences of the people living at Rozdi (Shrinathgadh) near Gondal in Saurashtra of 1850 B.C. and different strata of cultural life found at various places prove that the culture of Saurashtra is 4,000 years old.
Most places in the peninsula retain a small town feel, local cadences of Gujarati called Kathiawadi, and a tradition of a daily siesta when everything shuts down. The region abounds in religious shrines, wildlife sanctuaries, palaces and relics of royal legacies. From the Asiatic Lions of Gir and the Jain temples of Palitana to the ancient ruins scattered in the Barda Hills and the laid-back Portuguese-influenced enclave of Diu, the region offers a wide spectrum of fascinating places to visit.
As poet Navalram observed, people from Saurashtra are hardy, well built falks, daring, warlike and emotional. The community is said to be sturdy, prolific and active race, have audacity, love of adventure, a gay endurance , chivalry that often lead to buccaneering, exploration but too often due to greed there are some enterprising characteristics of people of Saursahtra. (Reference Rajputs of Suarsahtra by Shri Virbhadrasinhji)
Meaning:
As per one school of thought, “Saurashtra” mean Sau + Rashtra (100 nations), but as per another school of thought, this is a fractured speech of “Su-Rashtra” meaning Good Country. “Kathiawar” or “Kathiawad” was popularised by Marathas in its reigme.
Saurashtra Geography:
Arabian see today lies between African and Saurashtra, but in early days it was believed to be a wonder how western part of India (Gujarat) matches exactly with eastern Africa, later geologist confirmed the theory of one continent and its division into many continents and geographical sub continents, many geologist believed that Saurashtra was a part of Africa considering its Flora and Fauna, trees and animal habitats.
If the mythological parts of Dwarka is said to be true then Dwarka must have been fortified island and must have been surrounded by Arabian Sea, that could be a reason why Lord Krishna choose Dwarka to be their capital city, may be during Trassic age Africa and Indian sub–continent might have been joined just by saurashtra and some eruption / volcanic activity separated Saurashtra from Africa. Lion are the best example of the connection also some of the southern village of Junagarh has presence of African Negro Community, which could be an added example as well.
Early Civilization:
Pre Christian era civilization like Mohenjo-Daro and Hadappa must have flourished through Saurashtra as Saurashtra was the only connecting link between Lothal and Sindh. Earthen ware from these civilisation are found near Lakha-bawal in Jamnagar District. Evidence of port at Dholka and Lothal confirms that there was sea between Saurashtra and Gujarat.
Saurashtra also Sorath) is a region of western India, located on the Arabian Sea coast of Gujarat state. It consists of 7 districts of Gujarat, including the district of Rajkot. It is a peninsula also called Kathiawar after the Kathi Darbar who ruled part of the region once. The peninsula is shared with the Kachchh region which occupies the north, Saurashtra or Sorath forming the southern portion. The Saurastra or Kathiwar region comprises the south western part of Gujarat state and the districts included in this region are Rajkot, Junagadh, Bhavnagar, Porbandar, Jamnagar, Amreli, Surendranagar, and some portions of Ahmedabad District also fall under this area.
History:
Beyond the gulf of Baraca is that of Barygaza and the coast of the country of Ariaca, which is the beginning of the Kingdom of Nambanus and of all India. That part of it lying inland and adjoining Scythia is called Abiria, but the coast is called Syrastrene. It is a fertile country, yielding wheat and rice and sesame oil and clarified butter, cotton and the Indian cloths made therefrom, of the coarser sorts. Very many cattle are pastured there, and the men are of great stature and black in color. The metropolis of this country is Minnagara, from which much cotton cloth is brought down to Barygaza.
One of the greatest cluster of Jain monuments in Gujarat can be seen at Palitana, near the east coast of Saurashtra, where one of the most impressive temple complexes in India is situated on a sacred mountain summit, the Shatrunjaya hill.The temples are set in nine enclosures called Tuks, set on two ridges of the pinnacle, and some of the best works of Jain temple architecture can be seen in the Khateshwar tuk. The view of the temple cluster, with its massed domes and shikhars reaching out to the sky, against a backdrop of hilly countryside and the river Shatrunnnjaya is one of the greatest sights you can hope to see during a tour of India. The historic 863 temple complex has exquisite carvings, jewelled idols and detailed architecture, and an awesome aura of devotion.
In the granite hills near Palitana, Sihore was the capital of the Gohil Rajputs in the 17th century, and being the rulers of a prime coastland often faced battles and skirmishe with neighbouring rulers. Sihore Darbargadh was built to defend Gohilwad from the Kathi darbars of the Kathiawad hinterlands. The main palace inside the fortifications has a carved wooden facade and the rooms inside have wall paintings depicting historic battles and other subjects. From the fort terraces can be seen the granite hills, which provided superb natural defences for Sihore Darbargadh, and hilltop watchtowers from where warnings could be flashed to the inhabitants of the town. The Gohils moved their capital to Bhavnagar and commissioned European architects like Sir William Emerson, whose other works include Calcutta’s Victoria memorial, to built their palaces and public buildings.
West of Palitana is Mount Girnar, which rises 3660 ft over MeanSea Level on the outskirts of Junagadh city. The 12th century temples on the summit are exquisitely carved and superbly designed. Near the foot of Mt Girnar are relics of another religion, Buddhism, which like Jainism preached non-violence. The edicts of emperor Ashoka, the Mauryan ruler who helped spread Buddhism throughout south and south eastern Asia in the 3rd century BC, have been inscribed on basalt rock enroute from Girnar to Junagadh. The hills around Junagadh have Buddhist cave complexes dating from the rule of the Kshtrapas. One of these is in the Uparkot fort, which rises from a hill over Junagadh city. The Uparkot was believed to be a walled citadel upto the 5th century AD and again during Chudasama Rajput reign from the 9th to the 15th centuries. The fort has a high wall strengthened by bastions, with a huge moat inside the walls, granaries large enough to withstand a long siege, a Rajput palace that the sultans partially converted to a mosque after their conquest of Junagadh, Ottoman canons, and two imposing stepwells. The Mughals conquered Gujarat from the sultans and their subhas(governors) of Sorath were based in Uparkot fort. After the decline of Mughal power, the subhas founded their own dynasty, taking on Babi as their last name, and became the Nawabs of Junagadh. During their reign, Junagadh saw the rise of numerous buildings including palaces, the imposing Baha-ud-din college, the old maqbara and the fun-fairish 19th century mausoleum complex. A selection of their howdahs, palanquins, textiles and furnishings can be seen at the Durbarhall museum.
South of Junagadh is Somnath, well known for its temples. The Somnath temple is believed to have been built by Gods and their avtars(incarnations) but the earliest recorded phase in the history of Somnath’s Shiva temple is the 10th century Solanki reign of Gujarat. The temple was subjected to plunder and destruction by invaders over the centuries, and each time the resilient devotees restored it to its former glory. The present temple building was renovated in 1950 AD under the leadership of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel. Near the temple is the Prabhas Patan museum which houses architectural fragments and sculptures from the original temple of Somnath. A Sun temple, lord Krishna cenotaph and the Ahilya Holkar temple are other devotional monuments of Somnath. Lord Shiva, while stating he was omnipresent, mentioned that Somnath was one of his 12 important abodes, the reason the shore temple here is revered as a Jyotirlinga. Somnath was invaded by King Mohmed Gizni in 11th century. As one school of thought, khatri community, who were expert in weaving fine silk cloths, migrated to save their art & culture to South India now known as Palkars or Sourashtrians.
Like Somnath, Dwarka is one of the important Hindu shore temples, attracting millions of pilgrims. From the architectural viewpoint, an interesting temple is the Rukmani mandir, dated to the 12th and 13th centuries. Marine excavations indicate the presence of an ancient city, submerged by the sea.
Among the oldest temples extant in India are Ghumli, Gope and Bileshwar in the hills of Barda, between the coastal cities of Porbandar and Jamnagar. These temples date from the 7th to the 12th centuries and have interesting detailing. The Vikia vav at Ghumli is among Saurashtra’s most impressive step wells.
Kutch is another region that has impressive Hindu temples at Kera, Kotay and Bhuvad , Jain temples at Badreshwar and Naliya, and shore temples at Koteshwar, most of them dated to the 10th-13th century period. The Jadeja Rajputs became the major power of Kutch in the 16th century and over a period of four centuries forts and palaces were built in their state. One of the grandest of these palaces is the Aina mahal in the Darbargadh complex, which was embellished by Ram Singh, an artisan shipwrecked in Europe.
Sorath:
For a long span of time, the name Sorath remained limited to the region and later to the Muslim-ruled Princely State of Junagadh (“Junagarh” or the “Old City”). During British rule, Junagadh and its neighboring princely states were supervised by the Western India States Agency (WISA). In 1947, Junagadh’s Muslim ruler desired to accede his territory to Pakistan, but the predominantly Hindu population rebelled. He fled to Pakistan, and a plebiscite was conducted, as a result of which the kingdom was merged into the Indian Union.
Sorath/Saurashtra has a great spiritual heritage and has produced many Saints and divine souls. For a brief list of some notable figures of Saurashtra / Kathiawar, please refer to Notable characters and figures.
Saurashtra state:
After India’s independence in 1947, 217 princely states of Kathiawar, including the former kingdom of Junagadh, were merged together to form the state of Saurashtra on 15 February 1948. Initially, it was named United State of Kathiawar which was renamed to Saurashtra State in November 1948. The exercise took up a lot of Shri Vallabhbhai Patel’s time to convince the local princes and petty subas (totalling 222 in Saurashtra alone). However, Maharaja Krishnakumar Sinhji of Bhavnagar State readily extended to offer his large and royal empire of Bhavnagar / Gohilwar to Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel and Bhavnagar became first in the country to get merged into the union of India.
The capital of Saurashtra was Rajkot. Uchharangray Navalshankar Dhebar (1905–1977), who later went on to become President of the Indian National Congress between 1955 and ’59, became Saurashtra’s first Chief Minister. He was succeeded by Rasiklal Umedchand Parikh (b.1910) on 19 December 1954.
On November 1, 1956, Saurashtra was merged into Bombay state. In 1960 Bombay state was divided along linguistic lines into the new states of Gujarat and Maharashtra. The territory of Saurashtra, including that of the former kingdom of Sorath or Junagadh, is now part of the state of Gujarat.
Sourashtra as community:
Sourashtra or “Sourashtras” refers to a community of people who had their original homes in Gujarat and presently settled almost in all major Towns of Tamil Nadu and are concentrated more in Madurai which is considered as their cultural Headquarters, but have also settled in Bangalore of Karnataka and,in Tirupati of Andhra Pradesh. After 20th century, some families have settled in Mumbai, New Delhi and in foreign countries like USA, UK, Dubai, Singapore etc.
The origin of the name date backs to the time when the ancestors of theses people inhabited the kingdom of Saurashtra in Gujarat State. The Tamil name by which these people is known in Southern India is Patnūlkarar, that is silk-thread workers or weavers who speak “Pattunuli” or “Khatri”, a dialect of Gujarati. The details about Sourashtra community is discussed by A.J. Saunders. Dr.Uchdia Norihiko of KOBE, Japan, came to Madurai in 1972 and stayed for two years to do post doctoral research as a Senior Fellow in Linguistics under the auspices of Annamalai University, Chidambaram, Tamil Nadu. With help from O.S.Subramanian, Dr. Uchdia Norihiko is working on ‘Origin and Development of Sourashtra Language’. A.J. Saunders has authored ‘Oral Literature of Saurashtrans’ (1979), The Language of the Saurashtrans in Tirupati (1983), A Saurashtra-English Dictionary (1990).

Sourashtra, also known as Palkar. Sowrashtra, Saurashtram, is an Indo-Aryan language derived from Sauraseni Prakrit. The Ethnologue puts the number of speakers at 510,000 (1997 IMA), although the actual number could be double this figure or even more.
“Equivalent of Saurashtra in the Linguistic Survey has been recorded as Saurashtri which is yet another name of Patnuli dialect of Gujarati spoken by the silk weaving community of Madurai who are considered to have migrated from Gujarat to the south several centuries ago. On the basis of current preference for the name of their mother tongue, we have, however, adopted the name ‘Saurashtra’ and not Saurashtri. On account of several generations of association in the Dravidian Language area, the speech is supposed to have been strongly affected by Dravidian traits. We preferred to call that dialect of Gujarati with such traits as Saurashtra. … Regarding Saurashtra, however, some interest has been shown, of late, on the technical aspects of this variety while the inclination to affiliate it with Marathi is also visible among some scholars. In any case, some authoritative work on this variety of language remains to be done. Pending the same, however, we have to keep it under Gujarati according to the Linguistic Survey.” vide Census of India 1961 Vol.I INDIA Part II –C (ii) Language Tables, Published by the Manager of Publications, Civil Lines, Delhi, pp. CCXLIV + 554, (1967).
Oral tradition says that they have migrated on the fall of ‘Somanath Temple’ when Gazni Mohammed invaded and plundered Hindu Temples. It is said they lived for about two centuries in Devagiri and later moved to Vijayanagar Empire at the invitation of the Kings. They manufactured fine silk garments for the use of Kings and their families and were engaged in Silk trade.
When Nayak Kings started to rule Madurai, they were invited by the Madurai Nayak Kings and were given accommodation around Thirumalai Nayak Palace, Madurai, where even now there are many Sourashtra families living. The migration might have taken place in various groups at different times and they settled in many places in Tamil Nadu. Later Hyder Ali invited some families from Thanjavur to settle in Srirangapattanam in Karnataka. Those people are now in Bangalore after the fall of Srirangapattanam and they are called as ‘Jamkhaanadavaru’. Similarly some families went to Andhra and settled in Tirupati. Because of lack of frequent communications, there are so many dialect variations in this Language. The majority of people are settled in Madurai.
In history they are referred to as Patkar, Pattegar, Patvekar and Patnulkarar. In Tamil the weaving community is referred to as ‘Kaikkolar’. In Tamil Nadu State they are called Sourashtra (Patnulkarar) or merely Palkar. Edgar Thurston refers this Community as Pattunulkaran. The details about Sourashtra community are discussed by A.J. Saunders. A History of the Sourashtras in Southern India by the Sourashtra Literary Societies of Madura and Madras was published on 17 January 1891 under the Chairmanship of Sri T.M.Ramaswamaiyo, the Secretary being Sri K.V.Subbaiyo. In that book, it is stated that the following books were consulted: Dr.Balfour Encyclopedia of India, Ramesh Chander Dutt’s Ancient India, Alexander Cunnigham’s Ancient Geography of India, Tod’s Rajasthan, Professor Lassen on Prakrita Languages, Bombay Gazeteer, Researches of the Asiatic Society, A Grammar of the Gondian Languages.
The Ethnologue puts the number of speakers at 310,000 (1997 IMA), although the actual number could be double tor even three times this figure or even more because many people wrongly stated their mother tongue as Tamil in census enumeration as it is not taught in school and it remained mainly a spoken language, though Literature are available in Sourashtra, Telugu, Tamil, Kannada, Roman and Devanagari Scripts. Now Journals in Sourashtra script are published, such as Bhashabhimani, Zeek, Jaabaali, and Sourashtra Mithran.
Classification:
Sourashtram is classified under Indo-European Family – Aryan Sub Family -Indo-Aryan Branch – Inner Sub Branch Central Group-and pending some authoritative work, is tentatively grouped under Gujarati according to Linguistic Survey of India. vide Census of India 1961 Volume I INDIA Part II-C (ii) Language Tables p.ccxvii,published by The Manager of Publications, Civil Lines, Delhi, 1967.
“Saurāshtra is, through and through, an Indo-Aryan language. Sourāshtran publications are sufficient proof that it is an adequate medium for literary expression” vide The Saurashtrans of South India, By Dr.H.N.Randle, Plate VIII, published in the Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society, London October, 1944. “sou” in Hindi means 100 and “rashtra” refers to region so in general sourashtra refers to a province of 100 regions. Another meaning for Sourashtram is WEALTHY KINGDOM. That is why Mohamed Gazni invaded Saurashtra and looted Somanath Temple and carried away the treasures.
“Sourashtra Brahamanargal Sarithiram” is a well renowned book in Tamil which descirbes about their ancestry, how they descended south during ghazini’s invasion. Mostly they are categorized as Brahmins and when there was argument between them and Tamil Brahmins during “Upakarma” at vaigai river, madurai, they were arrested and presented in nayakkar’s court. Local Brahmins claimed that Sourashtra people were doing same kind of rituals as Brahmins and they want to understand how ritual they were. Thirumalai Nayakar ordered a debate to test their knowledge on Vedas and Upanishads. Without any doubt, Sourashtra Brahmins were able to answer all questions with rich explanations and Nayakar ordered a “Pattayam” stating that Sourashtras are considered as Brahmins and they have right to use Iyers and Iyengars surname. This “Pattayam” is still found evident in Sourashtra Club, Madurai.
Geographical distribution:
The speakers of the Saurashtra language, known as Saurashtrians, maintain a predominant presence in Madurai, a city, also known as ‘Temple City’ in the southern part of Tamil Nadu. Though official figures are hard to come by, it is believed that the Saurashtra population is anywhere between one-fifth and one-fourth of the city’s total population.
Also Saurashtrians, maintain a predominant presence throughout the Tamil Nadu Starting from Salem, a city, To be believed to have derived its name from the Tamil word Selai(Sari) (a traditional Dress worn by Women) because of the Saurashtrians weavers used to weave Silk sarees (Pattu Selai). Still many of the Saurashtrians residing in main land Salem (Areas including Ponnamapet, Ammapet) Used to weave Silk Dhoties. Silver leg chains are produced in (Shevapet) Salem and it exported to all over world. They also present in the Districts of Namakkal, Dindigul, Madurai, Vellore, Tirunelveli.
It is not known how many groups migrated from North India to South India. But because of absence of contact among the groups for a long time, dialect variations have emerged based on the place of their settlement. The alternate name of Sourashtra is PALKAR which term is used colloquially among them. But all Associations are named as Sourashtra Sabha/Association only.
Though there is little historical evidence available to support the argument that the Saurashtrians lived in the Saurashtra region of Gujarat in Western India, folklore, and recent linguistic and genetic researches have been able to establish, that this region was indeed once the habitat of the Saurashtrians. However, their language has more similarities with Marathi and Konkani, both Indo-Aryan languages of Western India, than it does with Modern Gujarati, the language of present-day Gujarat. Linguists have been able to explain why it is so: Both Saurashtra and Gujarati branched off from a common parent, and have since taken completely different paths to modernity. Gujarati came under the influence of Hindi, Persian, and Arabic, whereas Saurashtra, taking off from Gujarat before it had made any Muslim contact, was influenced by Marathi, Konkani, Kannada, Telugu, and finally, Tamil. It has been acknowledged that Persian and Arabic have had only limited influence on Marathi and Konkani, and this is why they still retain a good amount of vocabulary and grammar derived from Sanskrit, as compared to other daughter languages of Sanskrit. It is possible that the vocabulary and grammar shared between Modern Saurashtra and Marathi is what was originally derived from Sanskrit.
The southward flight of the Saurashtrians seems to have been triggered by the frequent Muslim invasions, most notably by Mahmud of Ghazni, of their homeland and the instability caused by it. No details are available whether it was a mass migration and when it took place. They found safe haven in the Vijayanagar Kingdom, with its capital at Hampi in present-day Karnataka, which was then expanding southwards. Weaving being their traditional occupation, they were able to win the attention of the Emperor and were soon elevated to the position of royal weavers. Telugu and Kannada were the court languages, though other languages such as Sanskrit and Tamil were also in use. It was during this period that Saurashtra started absorbing Telugu and Kannada words into its lexicon.
Vijayanagar rulers had the practice of appointing Governors, known as Nayaks, to manage far-flung regions of the empire. When Madurai and Thanjavur were annexed to the empire, Governors were appointed to administer the new territories. A part of the Saurashtra community may have moved to Madurai and Thanjavur at the time to serve the Governors.
The Vijayanagar empire collapsed after more than two centuries of rule, in 1565, after the Sultans of Deccan Confederacy won the battle of Talikota, thus opening up southern India for Muslim conquest. Soon afterwards, the Governors of Madurai and Thanjavur declared themselves the new rulers of the respective territories.
The Saurashtrians had to migrate again since they no longer enjoyed the royal patronage they were used to, and so, once again, were on the move. As there were Saurashtrians already present in Madurai and Thanjavur, it was only natural that they migrated further south to join their folks living there. The language would undergo one last alteration, this time influenced by Tamil, to bring it to its modern form. To this day, Saurashtrians are densely populated around the Royal Palace of Thirumalai Nayak, the greatest of the Nayak Rulers that ruled Madurai. There are good number of people staying in Mumbai(Maharashtra) in a place called Cheeta Camp and also in other parts of the city, but they all migrated from Salem etc. places within a period of a century. Marathi-speaking community in Thanjavur is different than Saurashtrians. The Marathi community arrived in Thanjavur during King Serfoji’s reign and they are culturally and linguistically distinct from Saurashtrians.
The greatest of the Nayak Rulers had great liking for silk wears and as the Saurashtrians were specialists in the weaving trade, they were invited by the King for weaving special silk clothings for the palace dwellers and that is how they settled around the palace of Thirumalai Nayak.
Sourashtra Vijayaaptham:
Sourashtra Vijayaaptham denotes the era of Sourashtra Migration. It commences from Tamil Calendar Chitrai 1st. It is derived from subtracting 1312 from the Gregorian Calendar year. It is 697 from 14 April 2009 to 13 April 2010. It is not known how the Era started. But currently it is stated in the Almanac Panchangam and people are using it.
Sourashtra Writing System:
The language has had its own script for centuries, the earliest one available from 1880. Dr. H.N. Randle has written an article ‘An Indo-Aryan Language of South India—Saurashtra Bhasha’ in the Bulletin of School of Oriental and African Studies (BSOAS) 11 Part 1 p. 104-121 and Part II p. 310-327 (1943–46)Published by Cambridge University Press on behalf of School of Oriental and African Studies.
This language is not taught in schools and hence had been confined to being merely a spoken language. But many great works like Bhagavath Gita and Tirukkural were translated into Sourashtram. It is now a literary language. Sahitya Akademi has recognized this language by conferring Bhasha Samman awards to Sourashtra Scholars. Most Saurashtrians are bilingual in their mother tongue and Tamil and are more comfortable using their second language for all practical written communication though of late, some of them started writing in Sourashtram using Sourashtra script.
There is an ongoing debate within the Saurashtra community regarding the use of the script for the Sourashtra language right from 1920 when a resolution was passed to adopt Devanagari Script for Sourashtra Language. Though some of the books were printed in Devanagari script, it failed to register the growth of the language. But in practice because of lack of printing facilities, books are continued to be printed in Tamil Script with diacritic marks with superscript number for the consonants ka, ca, Ta, ta and pa and adding a colon to na, ma, ra, and la for aspirated forms, which are peculiar to the Sourashtra language.
For writing Sourashtram using Devanagari Script, one require seven additional symbols to denote the short vowels ‘e’ and ‘o’ and four symbols for aspirated forms viz. nha, mha, rha and lha. We also require one more symbol to mark the sound of ‘half yakara’ which is peculiar to the Sourashtra language. The books printed in Devanagari Script were discarded because they did not represent the sounds properly.
The Commissioner for Linguistic Minorities, Allahabad by his letter No.123/5/1/62/1559 dated November 21, 1964 Communicated to Sourashtra Vidya Peetam, Madurai that the State Government were of the view that as only one book in Sourashtra Language had so far been submitted by Sourashtra Vidya Peetam for scrutiny, there was no point in examining the merits of only one book specially when the question regarding the usage of script – Hindi or Sourashtram, was still unsettled, and that the question of text books in Sourashtram might well lie over till a large number of books is available for scrutiny and for being prescribed as text books in Schools. The Leaders in the Community could not realize the importance of teaching of mother tongue in schools and did not evince interest in production of textbooks in Sourashtram for class use. But, now an awareness has arisen in the Community, and Sourashtra Vidya Peetam wants to teach the Sourashtra language through multimedia as suggested by Commissioner for Linguistic Minorities in his 42nd Report for the year (July 2003 to June 2004). Of late in internet, many Sourashtra Yahoo groups in their website use the Roman script for the Sourashtra language. A journal, Bhashabhimani, is published from Madurai, in Sourashtra Script. Another journal, ‘Jaabaali’, is also published by the same Editor of Bhashabhimani from Madurai. The ‘Zeeg’ Sourashtra script practice Magazine is also published from Madurai only. All the three journals support the Sourashtra script only. There is no journal in Devanagari.
Dialects:
Each of the traditional Saurashtrian settlements has its own dialect. Since there is not a central linguistic body governing the rules, and establishing what is standard and what is not, each dialect speaker considers his own the standard form. Because people were not used to write their language, proper study of the dialect variations were not undertaken. Recently only an awareness has arisen and people are slowly practicing written Sourashtram. Dictionaries have been compiled, but dialect variations are not properly noted. One Saurashtra-English Dictionary by Uchida Norihiko is available. Saurashtra-Tamil-English Dictionary one by K.R.Sethuraman (in Tamil Script) and another by T.V.Kubendran (in Sourashtra, Tamil and Roman script) are available.
Sourashtra Vidya Peetam:
Sourashtra Vidya Peetam is the oldest body which is working for the cause of the language by preserving the Script and the old literature. The earliest Sourashtra Book printed in Sourashtra Script available now is SOURASHTRANADHI by Pandit Lakshmanachariyar (1880). T.M.Rama Rai is the doyen of the development of Sourashtra Script and Literature.He published many books in Sourashtra Script and wrote Grammar and Text books in Sourashtram.

Sourashtra Evolution:
Sourashtra though refers to a migrated community, also refers to the language spoken by the Sourashtra community people (or Sourashtrians). During their migration from the north-western region of bharada khanda (ancient Indian peninsular region or present day Gujarath), they adapted to the regional and cultural aspects of the particular region they reside. In this way, Sourashtrians acquired proficeincy in the regional languages but without loosing their own language. When various technologies developed, they never failed to record their literature with the modern developments. Around 1850s to accomplish the vision of Sourashtra Literary Laurels, due to the hardwork of several visionaries for more than four decades a unique writing system developed which represents the originality, signficant features of Sourashtra language. Sourashtrians are mostly silk weavers and silk thread merchants, originated in the Saurashtra region (present day Gujarat, and parts of Maharashtra) in Northern India and later settled in Madurai and surrounding regions of Tamilnadu, few centuries ago.
The origin is certain, and research has proved the current day Sourashtra spoken by us is a modern form of pre-Gujarati spoken thousands of years ago. “…Their home language (Sourashtra language) is still a modern form of the old Saurashtri or Pre-Gujarati as it was over a thousand years ago, which was the language they brought with them through Maharashtra and Andra Desa to Tamilnadu. This language preserves, naturally enough many archaic features of Gujarati and at the same time shows influence of the sister Aryan languages of Konkani and Marathi and of Dravidian Telugu besides of course Tamil which has now virtually become the second mother tongue of the Sourashtrians….” says Suneetkumar Chatterjee a famous linguist.
But the time period when they migrated from Saurashtra region to south is still uncertain. Following theory are prevalent:
Theory 1:
The first theory is that, during the times when the infamous Ghazani Mohammed invaded Northern India from Afghanistan, a few families might have migrated South to escape from the series of invasions.
Theory 2:
Another assumption is a few families that came with the entourage of Shatrapathi Shivaji when he invaded south, might have stayed back to form their own community.
Theory 3:
This is the most popular and widely accepted theory by historians. During the Vijayanagaram Empire rule in Northern India, the Nayakars ruled the South as part of the empire with Madurai as their capital. During that period a few families from the Saurashtra region were called into Madurai to be the “Royal Weavers” for the Nayakars. This would explain very high concentration of Sourashtrians still today around the Thirumalai Nayakar Mahal, the Nayakar’s Palace. Since Sourashtrians are Silk Weavers by profession it would also disprove the theory that they came with Shivaji.
Later Sourashtrians settled in Madurai, spread around to Trichy, Salem, Kumbakonam and other surrounding areas as the population grew, but still managed to keep their unique language, and culture intact. Current day Sourashtrians, refer themselves as Tamilians as their identities and still speak Sourashtra at home. An estimated half a million Sourashtrians are living now mostly in Tamilnadu and a few are spread around all over the world.
Unique characteristics of the Saurashtrians in South India:
This history of the Greater Saurashtra and Greater Gujarat is very glorious and interesting. In this history of the Greater Saurashtra, it is remarkable that the Saurashtrians who have settled in South India are distinguished clearly, in some important aspects, from the other Saurashtrians who have migrated to other places inside or outside India. There are some unique characteristics, which draw our special attention.
Firstly, the Saurashtrians who have migrated to other places have not gone there collectively in larger groups at a time; while the Saurashtrians in South India have migrated there in larger collective groups at a time in a planned manner.
Secondly, these Saurashtrians in South India had gone there, equipped with the art of weaving silken cloth. The whole community or tribe has got remarkable skill in this single profession, and yet their mode of living as well as their family-names are obviously Brahminical. They are introducing themselves even to day as Saurashtri Brahmins. The other Saurashtrians who have migrated to other places have not taken with them a collective industry or art and the groups of Brahminical mode of living have not gone elsewhere in a collective manner.
Thirdly, the Saurashtrians who have migrated to other provinces or foreign countries have been in some sort of direct contact with the original homeland. For example, the Saurashtrians who had migrated to Africa have always returned (at least some of them and at least for some time) to the homeland sooner or later. In the case when these Saurashtrians have lost the link with the homeland, they have not been able to preserve the linguistic and cultural heritage of the homeland. On the contrary the Saurashtrians in South India have lost all the direct contact with their homeland, to such an extent that for some time, they did not know exactly where the homeland Saurashtra was geographically situated ; but even then they have been proud of being Saurashtrians and with a sense of pride they have preserved the old language and culture of Saurashtra. They knew only a few years ago where the homeland Saurashtra was exactly situated. Even now some of them have a notion that South Gujarat is a part of Saurashtra (3 bookmark). Even though they had lost the correct geographical location of the homeland Saurashtra, they had not forgotten or lost the language and culture of Saurashtra. They have persevered strongly to preserve the linguistic and cultural tradition of Saurashtra as it existed eight hundred years ago when they migrated from Saurashtra. No other Saurashtra migrants have preserved the tradition to this extent inspite of their being cut off completely from the homeland. They forgot the exact geography of the homeland, but the pride of the homeland was a life-force with them; the original language and culture were never obliterated.
New light on the form of the old language of Saurashtra :
If one study the linguistic, literary and cultural tradition of the Saurashtrians in South India, it is found, to a certain extent, very obviously, the Marathi, Kannada, Tamil and Telugu influence, external as well as internal, in its formation. If we can isolate this influence, it is probable that a study of the residual material will throw a new light on the language, literature and culture of Saurashtra as it existed eight hundred years ago. The English colonists who have migrated to Iceland and other islands have preserved in a pure form some special characteristics of the old English language such as old pronunciations and typical form of the old English language. This has supplied some important material for tracing the evolution of the English language. Similarly the study of the Southern Saurashtri language can supply some important material pertaining to the old language of Saurashtra and Gujarat. The Parsis who have migrated from Persia to Gujarat have adopted the Gujarati language almost as the mother tongue, and they have not continued the usage of their original language even in their intra group communication. But the Southern Saurashtrians have preserved very strongly their original linguistic traditions. Their pride of being Saurashtrians and their insistence on being called Saurashtrians are very strong. They had lost the geographical idea of their original homeland Saurashtra.

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120 Responses to Saurashtra: A Language, Region, Culture & Community

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  2. Kaarthic says:

    Great to hear many information about ourselves, which is always questionable!

  3. anonymous says:

    i learned many things about ourselves. thanks……. 🙂

  4. M.N.Rajaraman says:

    Unfortunately, the present day mixed community of Sourshtrians of Tamilnadu, are viewed as COWARDS by the Rajasthani Rulers and their descendants of today. After happily spending a good six hundred years in Tamilnadu, during which period they were using only Telugu for reading and writing,till 1920 AD, suddenly there is a debate about SCRIPT which did not exist in the Original Saurashtra area. Instead of progressing forward, lot of time and energy is wasted, claiming the language spoken by persons living in Madurai is differrent fro those of others. These persons have forgotten that all human beings of Indian Origin are Indians and are wasting time, while MODERN YOUNSTERS from all areas are least bothered. The can try to propagate this Script and Language in the present Saurashtra area of Gujerat and even try to know HOW THEY ARE VIEWED BY THE PRESENT POPULATION IN GUJERAT.
    M.N.Rajaraman, Past President of Sourashtra Madhya Sabha, 1981-84, Tamilnadu 23-12-2012

  5. Geetha says:

    Precious information about ourselves.

  6. Siva says:

    When I was surfing something, came across about this article. Least to mention, precious informations were presented in a nice way. Happy to know about the dialects which were used buy these people. Did these Saurashtrian people have a new year day? It would be of great help if you let me know about that?

  7. Gobinath says:

    Great information about saurashtrians, the article posted by you telling that who we are, where we from….. really worthy..

  8. Srinath Babu KSD says:

    Very nice article. Got answered lot of question.

  9. Good collection of available information. Much research is needed to find out the actual facts with authentication.
    K.V.Pathy.
    (Advisor, KUSO)

    • kuduvakumar says:

      sir, may i wnt to know about saurashtra language and saurashtra community. is there is any difference?

      • K.R.Nandakumaran says:

        To my knowledge, all sourashtra commiunity people speak sourashtra language although some may be knowing both reading and writing of sourashtra language.

  10. Chandu sankar.p says:

    I got More Information About My Mother Tounge because I m 4m Tirupati Sourastra region living in Patnool Street. Thanx Thanx Thank u So much……………

  11. Tamil Nenjan says:

    avre tenko pati jukku kaLaLata maadiri juku chokkaD likkiraas.

    Nicely written to know more about us.

    I am proud to say that I am a Sourashtrian and still I use Sourashtra as my mother tongue. My children too speaks sourashtra only in our home.
    For job search I am settled in Andaman for the last 27 years. Still Sourashtra speaking people around 10 families meet & exchange our views.

    We are in promoting Sourashtra lipi to our sourashtra people. Fonts were also developed. Lakshmanacharya convertor also in use.
    I am in the way to develop phonetic sourashtra software to use in all application.

    Hope Sourashtra lipi will be easy to learn by using IT.

    One small package in excel also made to convert Tamil to Sourashtra Lipi.

    Thanks for bringing about us in one roof.

    TN Krishnamoorthi
    tnkdcealhw@gmail.com
    9434289673.

    • Madanlal says:

      Hi… I am Madanlal, living in Chennai Avadi… working for central government… native paramakudi… I have 2 kids… boy 3rd std and girl baby UKG…
      How r u and family…
      nice to talk with u…

    • Dei. Nenga north indians, Gujarati, Saurashtrians, unaku Tamil nenjan nu peru!

      Tamiluku idhu oru ilivu!
      Weaklings!

      • Tamil Nenjan says:

        கிட்டத்தட்ட 1000 வருடங்களாக தமிழால் வாழ்ந்து கொண்டிருப்பவர்கள். தாய் மொழி எது என்று கேட்டால் கூட தமிழ் தான் என்பார்கள். தாய்ப்பால் போல் தமிழ்ப்பால் குடித்து வளர்ந்தவர்கள் நாங்கள்.

        கம்பன் கழகமே தமிழ் நெஞ்சனுக்கு வாழ்த்து சொல்லி விட்டது. கம்பனை பட்டி தொட்டி எங்கும் அழைத்துச் செல்வது தான் முக்கியம். மற்றவை எல்லாம் பின் தான்.

        திட்டுவதற்கு தமிழை உபயோகிக்காது இருந்தமைக்கு மிக்க நன்றி.

  12. Dr.Raj Rindani says:

    Sorath is the other name of Junagadh district and it is a part of Saurashtra not the whole saurashtra.

  13. Dr.Raj Rindani says:

    The people of Saurashtra Region celebrate the new year on Kartik Sud Ekam (First day of Kartik, new moon day)

  14. Ramesh Neelmegh says:

    I am a Saurashtrian originally from Madurai, now settled in the US. I am curious if there has been any attempt to do a genetic study of Saurashtrians to come up with a possible date of migration out of the Saurashtra region. This requires numerous a good sample size from TN as well as people living in Saurashtra Gujarat. The CCMB based in Hyderabad for example is quite capable of carrying out this study. Genetic data should be corroborated with other sources literary, oral and archeological to develop an accurate picture of Saurashtrian history.

    Ramesh

  15. Ravichandran says:

    I am very glade to read our history.
    There is lots of information for me.

  16. SATISH KUMAR S K R, USA says:

    Thanks for the Detailed information about Sourashtras. This is the only Article has complete information. I have visited many parts of world and met many from Maharashtra, Gujarat etc. Sourashtra resembles more like Marathi, Telugu than Gujarati. I understood the reason after reading your article. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN for the GREAT ARTICLE..

  17. purusithulasirammurali says:

    thanks your details about sourashtras we are sourashtrians we have nearly 12 lakhs in tamilnadu we forget our original gujarathi(kathiawadi) we are speaking language influenced with marathi hindi gujarathi also tamil telugu kannada our people calm and friendly with others we need cooperation from gujaratipeople as well us gujarat government govt must recognise also details research taken us

  18. siva kumar says:

    today I saw this page I realized my sowrashtra history .it is very usefor me and my childrens .

    thanks and regds/siva kumar,

  19. gowreshangkartrivede says:

    i gowreshangkar from kumbakonam gone through the above pages and was excellent, but one thing we must be represented as sourastrian brahmin by officialy in tamilnadu gezztte and another we have subcaste with in us ex trivedi, bhatta etc that all should be clarified by our shabha. next to that makarasankaranthi should be clebrated as festivel of spring by kite festival till now clebrated by our people of orgin (sourashtra with was in gujarat) for suggestions mail id trivede@gmail.com

  20. Hello, The article was very nice. Did you try to get a DNA report of present day sourashtrains ? I am a sourashtrian indeed. Probably that will reveal a lot about us.

  21. jaydeep says:

    great information on ‘saurashtra ‘ regeion. I m from saurashtra too.

    • vavsgr says:

      your identity by your native town village and phone no. is welcome to discuss on our saurashtra books from rajkot and its neibhouring districs
      v a vidyasagar

  22. baskar says:

    By the effort of Sourashtra Madhya Saba, to reform their mother-tongue sourashtri many stemps taken. With the help of Central Government’s Organisation CIIL (Central Institute of Indian Languages, Mysore) script chart to write Sourashtri laguage declared. Details at :

    Sourashtra Script (Alphabets) Declaration function

  23. Dr. Hemangini A Bhatt says:

    Superb Information about Saurastra…! Thank you very much sirji for sharing.

  24. giridharan avunan says:

    saurashtras ancient history yet to be rediscovered

  25. saurashtras ancient inhabitant hamlets or forts or ghars enrouted in entire central asia earlier known as bharatvarsh

  26. Saravanan Kalastha says:

    Is there any sourashtra speaking people living in present day gujarat ? I was born and brought up in Tamilnadu,am on a trip to gujarat and i’ll stay atleast 2 months there.If anyone knows anything,please convey me.I am gonna take a lookmof our ancestral land.

  27. Kuttuva Ramalingam Nandakumran says:

    i’m proud to know our history. i wud like all sourashtrians should have some unique attire or symbol to identify that they are sourashtrians, like Bhramin Iyengars will have long red line(Chuchum) on their forehead. Can this be openly debated by each and every sourashtrian offering their recommendation/ suggestion and decision can be taken by Sourashtra Madhya Sabha-Madurai. This will help to talk to any sourashtrian the moment we know he/she is a sourashtrians. Several time we may be talking to a sourashtrian in a common language like tamil or english without knowing that he/she is a sourashtrian. Here the unique attire or symbol will help and the relationship between them will develop.This kind incidents happened to me many times as I’m living in Mysore and I travel to many places.

  28. prakash. illupur . pudukkottai says:

    so many informatios know for me very important history ariticals in this side me told to my frids
    by
    sourastra youngers group sabha
    illuppur

  29. S.R.Dhamodaran says:

    Thanks for your hard work regarding origin of Saurastra. your website referred by Wikipedia, let us work on ancient region of Saurastra people by looking their “Gotras”, i think it will help

  30. sireesha says:

    really very happy to know about my roots… im a sourashtrian settled in andhrapradesh….we are called here as pattusalis…im sure that during those attacks of muslim rulers and during those migrations my ancestors have moved to ap.recently i was told by some one of our family dat we used be called sourashtra brahmins so i strtd searching about dis on the internet and found many facts….so i realised dat though im a south indian now but ive my original roots from gujrat wow!!!!!

  31. Prof.C.S.Krishnamoorthy says:

    Do you know the following facts about the Sourashtras of Tamil Nadu:
    1. Sourashtra Brahmins are an ancient tribe of the Vedic Age and in all probabilities the descendants of the Mohenjo-Daro –Harappa people.
    2. At the beginning they spoke Vedic Sanskrit or the Old-Indo Aryan language and subsequently the Prakrits and got transformed into the modern form after its contact with Marathi, Kannada and Telugu. It is PRE-GUJARATI-INDEPENDENT LANGUAGE AND NOT A DILECT OF GUJARATI AS THE GOVT.OF INDIA HOLDS.
    3. When the significance of Vedic rituals got reduced, they took to weaving, silk weaving and trading. They worked under ‘Srenis’ under Sreshtis.
    4. They are the ardent worshippers of the Sun or Surya besides the Mother Goddesses, trees and the Nagas (-serpant).
    5. Ordinarily the Sourashtras worshipped ‘Bhagavan’ (or God ) through Bhakti and Bhajans ever since the earliest days.
    6. Some of them had traded in horses, diamond and other precious stones besides Silk and Cotton clothes.
    7. They traded all over the ancient land of India and trade contact with the West and the South-Eastern Countries. As such, as traders they might have been in touch with the Sangam people of Tamil Nadu.
    8. They migrated into the South in India when the Vallabhi dynasty of Sourashtra fell by 800 A.D and moved further south via Bombay-Karnataka area and the Telugu countries and firmly settled in the Tamil soil from c. 1300 A.D.
    To know more details, pl. order for a copy of the book ‘The Migrant silk Weavers of Tamil Nadu- A Study’.
    Those who want to have copy of it may get it in person or on sending an amount @ the rate of Rs.500/per copy to: Prof. C. S. Krishnamoorthy, 23, Mahal 5th St., Madurai- 625 001 or depositing with S.B.A/C No.6200 20 100 89389, of Sakthi Cultural & Educational Trust, Madurai in Syndicate Bank, Main Branch East Veli St., Madurai-1 `I F S C: SYNB 0006200 (For RTGS/NEFT Route)
    On receipt of the amount, the book will reach you by registered BOOK PACKET if the contact address is within India or by Courier if is within in Tamil Nadu as and when you informs us your clear postal address by SMS to +91 9150 61 82 81 to which the book is to be sent.

  32. Neelamegam Rajendran says:

    Can you enlighten me about madurai sourashtrians living now in Ahmedabad?

  33. Ramamurthy Nagaswamy Tevnan(Mumbai) says:

    Ramamurthy Nagaswamy Tevnan

    I am glad to know more about our community which was dormant in many places. Nice to feel proud of ourself. Thanks for the information gathered and shared. Juggu chakod lagarisi…ikka dee amra palkar mengaan khot se mene kalanaga hondiyas…atto hami milla recognise horas…feeling proud and happy

  34. Venkatesh V R says:

    I am Very glad to say ” i am sourashtrian” . My name is Venkatesh V R from Tamil Nadu Paramakudi. I am very eager and Hunger to know about history of our language and region. This articles is so interesting and have many informations about our history. Thanks for giving such wonderful informations.

  35. rajeswari. TS says:

    I feel very proud to be an Sourashtra Girl, Staying in Bengaluru.

  36. rajeswari. TS says:

    I feel very proud to be an Sowrashtra girl.

  37. v a vidyasagar says:

    thanks for thearticle . i feel great to be a saurashtrian.
    article gives about the idea of our earlier history. i like to get more details about the history

    further informaions about our script of our language is welocme
    thanks
    v a vidyasagar
    chennai,,,, origin at madurai

  38. PRAKASH says:

    JOKI.A. PRAKASH, MI MALAYSIA KUALALUMPUR UM SEATHEY CHOKAT DETAIL LEYKIRAS JHOKU SONTHOSE, ” MANU DHARMAM ” WIKIPEDIA IM SOURASHTRA OLD BOOK “JAINT AVASTHA” MENI LEYKERAS THUMI THELLA HOR ROUWOH SEARECH KENNO MANI MELARIO.

  39. K.V.VENKATRAMANAN ERODE says:

    I READ MANY SOURASTRA’S HISTORY & LIPI. THEY ARE DON’T KNOW IN 08-08-2009 AT PALAYANKOTTAI,APPROVED FROM CIIL,MYSURU ANOUNCED NEW SOURASTRI LIPI FROM PARIVARTHAN DEVANGARI

  40. Anandi says:

    Are there people speaking saurashtra lang or similar dialect in somnath temple area in town or villages

  41. Anandi says:

    Are there people speaking saurashtra lang or similar dialects around somnath temple area in towns or villages

    • sapovadia says:

      People in Saurashtra (including area near Somanth) speaks Gujarati. Many words (40-50%) are similar in Gujarati with Sourashtrian language but its composition and grammar is different. If one analyse sentence, similarities surfaces in many ways, but people in villages and town near Somanth do not speak Sorashtrian language. Thank you

  42. Sabareesh says:

    Its Been 4 years the article is written. I liked the way it is narrated and it brings the pride in us.This needs to be reached to every Saurashtrian around this world.

    Feeling Proud to be a Saurasthrian!

  43. Karthikeyan says:

    Sir.. i have one doubt?.. In mahabharata yadhargal known as sowrastra peoples….

  44. Nice information, which our Sourashtra people required the history, how we can find whether our relation is live in that area by family name or Kothram

  45. Balaji says:

    Dr. Vrajlal K. Sapovadia,

    Is there any connection between the Savji community (pategar) in Karnataka, as they speak similar language like Sourashtra and they also claim they are originally from South Gujarat?

    Thanks,

    Balaji

    • sapovadia says:

      When Savjis migrated from Malwa region to the southern states, many of them were involved in silk cleaning and weaving business. Today, there are many Savji families in Karnataka, Andhra and Tamil Nadu who are in silk cleaning and weaving business. Malwa region is between west Madhya Pradesh and East Gujarat, i.e. near Ujjain and Indore. They believe in similar Godess Shakti mata as Sourashtrian community like (Hinglaj, Jagdamba and Bhawani). It can be inferred they may be connected at some point of time but separated due to the same reason of cultural/religious invasion at different point of time or could be their first migration path may be different. Thank you for your question.

  46. Kathiyavad no Raja says:

    Well, I am from Saurashtra, Gujarat. Brahmi as well.

    I am happy that i found out about your community and how proud you are about your kathiyawadi origins.

    I tried to understand some words written here i your language and i was able to understand almost 60%.

    Unfortunately when gujarati came From North Na d central Gujarat to saurastra our languahe died completely due to Even schools and royal houses promoted Gujarati over Our Saurashtra!

    Thats why saurastra died and even katchhi will die in few years. Still Kathiyawadi Gujarati vs very different from other Doalets due to large vocabulary of Previous saurastra language.

    Maybe if we can, we shpuld revive old Saurashtra language with script and Removing Non saurastra words from southern saurastra and Mixing it with Kathiyavadi Gujarati.

    If we can do that and promote new language over Gujarati in Saurashtra. We will able to get our kathi identity back again and maybe our Land will get Statehood again.

  47. Saurashtra, into Aryan language. Gujarati, north indians. I am right?

  48. Tamilan Katrina Kovil la north indians ku enna velai! Saurashtra peoples Brahmins illa! Saurashtra peoples inga vanthadhu enga nayakka mannargaluku dress thachu Thara thaa!!

  49. Na unga ellaruttaium onnu kekuren. Nenga ungala TAMILARGAL nu solli kiringala?

    Tamil language ah first language ah use panravanga mattum tha Tamilian nu solluvangala!

  50. Karthikeyan says:

    Is it they can married other community just like Telugu family. ???

  51. Babu. says:

    How much time and energy we are wasting by shouting and fighting in the name of languages like Sourashtra, Tamil, Hindi, Marathi or Nepali? Is it worth? Language is a means to convey our ideas and thoughts. It is a tool to use for the benefit of the humanity.
    The world community has accepted the use of English in IT., commercial and in many more fields.
    Are we not benefitted by English?
    Still we are not realising the dirty tricks and hypocrisy of the frauds trying to benefit themselves cheating us.
    Wise people are fast moving with one aim – DEVELOPMENT, PROGRESS and SUCCESS.
    Let us try to follow them.

  52. Suresh Mohan says:

    Very well written .

  53. upamanyublog says:

    There is always scope for further improvement.
    Sourashtra language is not yet fully analysed. It should be compared with other languages like
    Marathi, Konkani, khaTri and Gujarati.

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  55. Nice details. I appreciate your effort.

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  57. kumaran says:

    Jhukku Santosh mee ghenav gan sangulariyo mee onte saurashtrian meni.

  58. sapovadia says:

    Thank you, Kumaran!

  59. Hari says:

    Prosperous history about ourself

  60. Sree says:

    Namaskar
    May I know who is Jabali gothram Kuladeivam.

    • sapovadia says:

      Namaskar, sorry for my inability to provide this information. If you can get answer in future from any other source, please let me also know.

      Thank you,

  61. Gene L says:

    Hello,

    I have an antique South Indian bronze object that has an inscription in Tamil script. I understand that Saurashtra language uses the Tamil script.

    Could I send you an email with some images and perhaps you can identify if it is Saurashtran?

    regards
    Gene

  62. upamanyublog says:

    Yes we are following Suriyamana Tamil Calendar and our new year is
    Tamil month Chittirai 1st corresponding to 14th April every year.
    We are not following chandramana – lunar year.
    O.S.Subramanian.

  63. Kannan Nattammai (aka. Aala Vandaan) says:

    In a Day of Fanatics / Fanaticism is the Leading Word of Everyone or every Governments, searching my / one’s true identity or origin is need of the hour / day! Thanks to the HYPOcritical governments & the Peoples surrounded it.

    If anybody burning for this ‘Sourashtra’ develoent, they should test how their origin was, than blaming or bursting over Sourashtra clans!

    Pavyamai ninrathal ‘Pavvu’..

    Veeramai Nindral ‘Veeru’ .. **

    **(the identification of Us, Sourashtrians by Tamils, for our Traits)

    Respects & Regards to this WRITER & Other Commenter(s) here (including some heart burners),
    Kannan N S (Aala Vandaan)

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